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It's not his fault.

He has a condition.
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:iconnova3547:
Nova3547 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2015
When I played the original red, I choose charmander because I thought charizard could learn fly. I was wrong.
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:iconweavileforce:
Weavileforce Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2015
Why doesn't the trainer just get a surfboard? Why does the game have pointless obstacles in the way, stopping anybody from traveling from one place to another? Why do HM moves exist?
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Rhuen1 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015
Its the classic RPG situation of preventing/inhibiting players who aren't at a high enough level yet from wandering into a new area where things are more than they can handle yet/make the world feel like its open world yet keep the story linear.

The oldest RPGs did it kind of lazy, having rivers and mountains dividing areas with bridges connecting them, it became common knowledge that crossing a bridge meant entering a new area. But to make it feel more natural and for the sake of the story they have complicated it with caves, massive rocks blocking the road, ect...that need special moves or items that can't be used till a certain condition is met that would test that the player is strong enough.

Although it would be nice if Pokémon HMs were stronger, for something that has to take up space in the party: or if they could be a hidden ability rather than taking up space in the oh so ludicrous (four moves only).
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:iconchaosmiles07:
ChaosMiles07 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Meanwhile, Wailord can learn just about ALL of the Water-type HM/Field moves...
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:icondoodleknots:
DoodleKnots Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014
Well swimming in water yea but to teach someone to swim with the TRAINER ON ITS BACK....
Different story... Like hell I bet its annoying if you are a kyogre and you have to get used to someone walking on your back (bc you are huge) while you are as swimming especially being able to stay without diving till the trainer say so...
Then there is being able to notice that the trainer is not on your back if she/she got swept away
And of course the trainer holding on to dear life if swimming fast and making sharp turns...
Its like being a doggy listening to a trainer literally O . O
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:iconziblink:
Ziblink Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I'd write some biting critique here but I just learned 'eat' and I have a limited number of moves here.
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:iconentomoligist:
Entomoligist Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2014  Student Photographer
Oh WOW...
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:iconweavileforce:
Weavileforce Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
Why doesn't the trainer learn to surf himself?
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:iconchaosmiles07:
ChaosMiles07 Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:iconswampertbruhplz:
Oh
my
ARCEUS
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:icontaiyung:
TaiYung Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Pokemon logic is the best logic! xD
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:icont-tylon:
T-Tylon Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013
Actually, this isn't as illogical as you might think (though the panel is still comical in it's own right). The difference between TM and HM lies in the relation with the trainer : TM are pokemon technique that many different species tend to learn about naturally, because they know them as instinct. HM, in other hand, are techniques developped by humans through human mind sense of conceptualization ; it's the way human tend to do and use things or tool a certain way to obtain a result or a function that differ greatly from natural standards.

To put it in another way, a "fish" such as kyogre doesn't need to be taught to swim the same way a human isn't taught at birth how to walk, however that logic only applied to himself. Because as a trainer's pokemon : it need to be taught how to swim WITH another being on his back, WITHOUT killing him or injuring him (the same logic applies to flying pokemon). For exemple, have you ever seen the training of an Orca in a swimming spectacle ? And how even with the best trainers to teach them numerous tricks, including "surfing on their nose", they can still fatally injure their human partners at the slimmiest mistake ? And now put that logic in application to pokemon ; where any damn last single one of those creatures can pack enough of a punch to kill a human...

As a trainer : would you trust your life casually in their individual instinct on your first encounter ? Or would you rather try to "train them" with HM in order to ensure you will not accidentally drown 500ft underwater neither be dropped from a 1000ft high from the sky ?

Well, i don't know your choice but i've made mine.
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:icongryphinlover:
Gryphinlover Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Pokemon..... *sigh* They really didn't think it through. ..
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:icon2xhelix:
2xHelix Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013
Realistically, they could also remember more than four moves and wouldn't need to forget one to learn an HM.
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:iconmasterkeyblade1998:
MasterKeyblade1998 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
that's a game play thing
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:iconzophah:
zophah Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Surf is not about a Pokemon's ability to swim, it's about their ability to carry a trainer with them.
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:iconkingkoopa121:
Kingkoopa121 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
but . . . ITS A GIANT FISH HOW CAN IT NOT CARRY HIM
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:iconleviathantamer:
Leviathantamer Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013
too slippery of a back, it needs to learn how to make little ridges with its scales or some kind of wrinkle.
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:iconevilhusky49:
evilhusky49 Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013
its just one of those floors in pokemon logic...all these flying types need a computer to teach them to fly, doesn't learning to fly come standard...I mean you're a god damn bird, robins learn to fly naturaly and so do sparrows and pigeons they don't need a computer chip or a floppy disc rammed up their anus to teach em to flap there wings 
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:iconyamiryuuzero:
yamiryuuzero Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
Why can't I fly on my Charizard's back? Why can't I use Ponita's flames to light up a dark cavern? Why can't I just use my water pokemon to cross the ocean without having to teach it Surf?! Damm you, logic!!!
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:iconmichaelwolfheart:
MichaelWolfHeart Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A condition.
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:iconzillas01:
zillas01 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I'll buy the kyogre for $9,999,999
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:iconvanimal613:
vanimal613 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2013
Pokemon logic is always so weird. :P
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:iconmeekeemee:
meekeemee Featured By Owner May 18, 2013
I'll take you Kyogre
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:iconcelticirishgirl:
CelticIrishgirl Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Poor Kyogre.
lol.
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:iconklausiboy:
klausiboy Featured By Owner May 12, 2013
well, surf lets the pokemon carry you while swimming. that doesn't mean it can't swim without. a thing i am allways wondering about though, how the heck does my pokemon battle pokemon i encounter while surfing? imagine me surfing on pellipper, and the throwing out snorlax og groudon to battle...
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:iconrunetrantor:
RuneTrantor Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It probably goes something like this:
www.awkwardzombie.com/index.ph…
and this,
www.awkwardzombie.com/index.ph…
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:iconsydsydrox:
SydSydrox Featured By Owner May 11, 2013
xD pool kyogre
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:icondarktailss:
DarkTailss Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
xD
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:iconnerer:
nerer Featured By Owner May 11, 2013
I sea what you did here
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:iconlaronx:
LaronX Featured By Owner May 10, 2013
He knows how to swim. Not how to carry people over the sea. He is a fish diving would be more of a second nature then staying at the surface.
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:iconkachin77:
kachin77 Featured By Owner May 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know right?
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:iconblake-shade:
Blake-Shade Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
then it is a rearted condition!
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:iconrolllinggirl:
RolllingGirl Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013
I'm dying. Oh my god. xD
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:iconleve726:
Leve726 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013
Hahaha!
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:icontehthiefhero:
TehThiefHero Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Poor Kyogre. :(
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:iconjhawkjayhawk:
jhawkjayhawk Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013  Hobbyist
and this is y i dont apply logic to most video games :P
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:iconfrostywaters:
FrostyWaters Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2013
Zubat <3
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:iconllirbwerdnadivad:
llirbwerdnadivad Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013
v.v
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:iconlydocia:
lydocia Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Hobbyist
You guys ever think that it's not the swimming they have trouble with, but the riding?
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:iconmeismeduh:
meismeduh Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013
mind=blown
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:iconthescalene:
TheScalene Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I have never considered that... Whoa.
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:iconlydocia:
lydocia Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist
It's how I justify it in my head, anyway - don't know if's "the truth" behind it. :)
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:iconthescalene:
TheScalene Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It's clever!
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:iconpentacle565:
pentacle565 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013
Right up there with expecting to fly on a pidgey. You can... its just silly.
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:iconbond674:
bond674 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013
flies right by you ontop a tiny sparow.

me "Sparows fuck yeah!!"
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:iconmat702:
mat702 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013
Awsome!! even your descripsion is hilirias!
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:icondemented-octopus:
demented-octopus Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013
Like how Butterfree can't learn Fly XD
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:iconpkmn2legacy:
Pkmn2Legacy Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2013
Except in the Pokemon Adventures manga :) the character Yellow has a Butterfree that carries her around
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:icontheredauthar:
TheRedAuthar Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2013
Sometimes Pokemon just need to be whapped upside the head.
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:iconepifex:
Epifex Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Student General Artist
Damn straight.
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